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so what was it about the lights that

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prompted you to focus on them a little

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bit more than you would do say

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where it were an aircraft

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I've said three things really basically

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it was a brightness of the lights

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Landing lights have rays which like a

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car like you can see them pointing

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forward there's no race just two bright

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lights they were close together

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which again to me ruled out military

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aircraft because military aircraft from

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my experience do not fly information at

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night time for safety reasons and

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secondly the light was staggered they

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weren't parallel they had to run above

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the other close together which would

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indicate to me to craft flying very

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close together do you do either of you

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hear any noise at all none whatsoever

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and I've got quite sure up hearing now

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the reason for that is I think if they

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were making a humming noise we have a

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Motorway just on the top of the hill

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which is a constant humming noise and

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that time of night of course there's a

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lot of traffic around we have the

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Bradford road down here too so it's nice

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from both directions that may have

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eliminated any noise that was there

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now you mentioned that the flight of

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these lights were staggered they had

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this intensity about them without giving

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off a beam was there any other curious

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feature that distinguished them from say

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normal aircraft

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the thing that impressed us most I

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thought it was so intensely dark has no

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Reflection from them there's no

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possibility of getting it at a shape

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distinction but I definitely think

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there's toe craft it was a strange one

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uh mainly because it was such a clear

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evening there was no clouds in the sky

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at all uh there's quite obviously quite

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a few planes that travel over here but

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they were just a very slow moving they

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were they were they didn't move around

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at all they stuck together all the time

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and it was just so strange watching the

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mouse slow they were moving across it

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was as if they weren't moving if you

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know what I mean it was just satellite

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traveling so slowly and they just never

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fluctuated away from each other they

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always stayed tight that you know the

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same distance apart and and just were

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just moving and it was quite uh weird

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just watching them really you could tell

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they weren't aircraft lights as what I

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know anyway I'm not very good at telling

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the distance or anything like that but I

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would say they were quite lowered down

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but they were certainly behind hours

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they weren't directly above because I

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could still see them as I was traveling

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up while I was training behind rather

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than looking straight backwards if you

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know I mean I wasn't sort of like

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looking just straight at the side I was

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having to turn that back and see them

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and then it was just as if they

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disappeared they did I didn't see them

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move away and I didn't see them sort of

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like uh just you know disappear they

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actually just moved away and then I

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think it must have been that the my

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recycling was gone then really I had a

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look when I got right to the top of

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chair well because you see quite a good

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distance across and I didn't see

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anything after that but you're fairly

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convinced that they weren't your

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standard lights attached to an aircraft

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oh definitely I would I would say quite

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99.9 certain they weren't actually

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lights attached to a normal everyday

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craft certainly not we were coming home

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from the vets

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it must have been about his appointment

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was 5 30 so it must have been about five

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forty five forty five

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coming up Tinsel Lane

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and we we just happened to look across

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our right shoulder

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and I I said to Charlotte I said oh gosh

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that's low

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is gonna crash

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but then as these lights got closer it

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couldn't possibly have been a plane they

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were too close together too big

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the best way I described them were

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glaring headlights

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but big in the sky not very

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just above house level

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too low to have been a plane

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so well I said to Charlotte I said hello

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it's early and Charlotte you know so

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which she grabbed my arm and says how

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old is your daughter she's 13. uh but I

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said on the way up to him you know

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they're not a friendly like it's a we

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were waving and having a laugh

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and we watched them go extremely slow

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extremely slow couldn't see anything

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else or hear anything

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big white

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glaring like headlamps like so just went

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across and then we carried on walking

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and as we're glancing across our left

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shoulder

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I couldn't see them anymore they've

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disappeared

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and yeah it was a bit eerie

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was all the time I had to video it but

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having said that I mean probably maybe

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yes I did see him for a minute and a

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half or so

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that we are somewhat restricted here

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with the um the elevation that the

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houses and the and the trees yeah we can

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actually hear an aircraft going overhead

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right now that's right we've got the top

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of that is yes now

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you are familiar I would take it with

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normal aircraft that come into Leeds

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Bradford Airport yeah have you ever or

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your wife ever seen any lights like this

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before never if I had it on I wouldn't

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have bothered getting the video coming

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out it was because it didn't fit into

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any pattern that we got the video camera

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out I could see the strobe lights uh

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because I'm looking through the video on

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magnification but

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um I didn't see any strobilizer as they

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were approaching so the only time I've

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seen them is on magnification on the

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film you should be getting exactly the

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same sort of background noise as we were

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getting but when I listened to the chip

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afterwards myself there is a Doppler

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effect on it you can nearly actually

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going away so it's got to be something

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associated with those two objects

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whatever they were

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I suppose it's increasingly began to

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question what it was I said are there a

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couple of stars we've never noticed

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before and things like that do you know

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whereabouts were you walking the dog out

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on Roundy Golf Course then we walk sort

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of down one Fairway up the other Fairway

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back down the original Fairway and these

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lights were still there

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um I can only describe them you know if

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you're standing in front of a plane as

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it's coming into London you've got like

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plain headlights and it looked like that

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but they just never moved absolutely

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still for at least five minutes

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whilst we said to a stationary for all

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that time when we as we got closer

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because they suddenly moved and they

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were one behind the other at that time

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the arriving side by side but when they

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were moving in the morning one in front

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of the alone again I've not seen an

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aircraft like that but normally the side

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side by side as they move

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Elsa I mean the speed they go across the

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sky as well was surprising yeah I mean

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no noise are very very faint noise so

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you know the only thing you could like

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the lights to is like when you see a

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helicopter hovering but then there were

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two of them and they suddenly moved at a

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speed the helicopter didn't move on no

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helicopter I've ever seen

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what you're basically saying is that

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these lights separated the dead work

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that they they start as they said when

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they started to move they came almost

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over the top of our heads one in front

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of the other and as they passed over as

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one of them carried on straight ahead

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and one of them went almost at right

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angles off left to the first one very

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quickly

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any idea at all to draw a comparison

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you can't put a speeder I mean I'm not

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I'm not technically minded enough to put

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an actual speed on it but we've all

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watched aircraft move across the sky and

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they seem to be very slowly don't they

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when when they move across a big Horizon

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these these went from where we were one

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went in the direction of Harrogate and

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we went their direction to garforth and

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then

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seconds almost they were on the horizon

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in different directions now that's

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quicker than I've ever seen anything

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move all I can say for certain is it's

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nothing I've ever seen before nothing I

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can explain

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I mean I think if you are a skeptic you

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try to explain it to yourself and I'm

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saying well there was some conflicts in

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Iraq stirring up again you know is it

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some sort of stealth fighter or

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something but the way it split from

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almost it looked like one

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thing to two suddenly I gotta explain it

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so I think people have to draw their own

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conclusions I won't be skeptical anymore

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without yeah

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I wouldn't have a clue what it is I mean

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we've seen the the traffic helicopter

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and the light from that regularly the

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noise with that it just wasn't that and

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I've seen reports that suggest it was

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microlights and I've also heard micro

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lights and it certainly wasn't

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microlites I would like to say so we see

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a lot of um lights at night which are

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usually sort of civilian aircraft or

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commercial Jets and a lot of military

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craft as well

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um and of course we don't uh bat an

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eyelid but on this particular occasion

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we did

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um that ended up being

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lasting about three minutes with an

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object appearing Over the Horizon in the

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distance

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there were two white lights with a a

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fair distance separating them which

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and so because they maintained that

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position for quite a while

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um I decided to get my binoculars out

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and they seemed to appear at a very slow

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rate and slightly ever so slightly get

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bigger but all of a sudden a red light

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appeared and at this point I was looking

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through binoculars and this red light

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um slowly began to rise above and

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between the other two lives to form a

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triangle and at this point the whole

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object had got quite a lot bigger and

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it'd began to turn

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and as it tilted this third red light

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actually rotated with all the other two

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as if they're on fixed points on a

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triangle and

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then they eventually kind of leveled out